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Spec Ops: The Line (Credits)

Yager Development

Design Department
Cory DavisCreative Lead
Francois CoulonCreative Lead
Cory DavisDesign Lead
Johannes KristmannDesign
Shawn FrisonDesign
Torkel FornerDesign
Zdenek MezihorakAdditional Design
Hakan AtesAdditional Design
Richard PearseyNarrative Design
Walt WilliamsNarrative Design
Georg StruckAdditional Writing
Jörg FriedrichLevel Design Lead
Bruce Locke (I)Level Design
Enrique ColinetLevel Design
Fari RugLevel Design
Oliver PflugLevel Design
Stephan ReneltLevel Design
Timm BoukouraLevel Design
Ulrich WurzerLevel Design
Wang NanLevel Design
Dan BanefeltTechnical Design
Jan LiebetrauTechnical Design
Philipp HagenTechnical Design
Klaus RiechAdditional Level Design
Wil MakaneoleTechnical Advisor
Tech Department
Hendrik HoenickeTechnical Director
André DittrichProgramming Lead
Axel HyllaGameplay Programming
Eckhard DukenGameplay Programming
Keaton VanAukenGameplay Programming
Konstantin FrickGameplay Programming
Mikael DanielssonGameplay Programming
Riad DjemiliGameplay Programming
Stephan ZiepGameplay Programming
Daniel KollmannAI Programming
David BendingAI Programming
Denis DanielyanAI Programming
Jörg ReisigAI Programming
Arne SchoberPlatform Programming
Christoph FreundlPlatform Programming
Christoph ReinbothePlatform Programming
Maik SemderPlatform Programming
Martin ZielinskiPlatform Programming
Richard SchubertPlatform Programming
Robert HoffmannPlatform Programming
Patric GenferAdditional Programming
Carsten HenßingerAdditional Programming
Tim BärmanAdditional Programming
Wojciech ZielinskiTechnical Art Lead
Francisco Javier Martínez PalmerTechnical Art
Jan DeisslerTechnical Art
Jan David HasselTechnical Art
Ken MayfieldTechnical Art
Marc BlumrichTechnical Art
Oliver StubenrauchTechnical Art
Christian HerzogAdditional Technical Art
Florian ZenderVisual Effects Lead
Hanno HinkelbeinVisua Effects
Michael RutishauserVisua Effects
Stephane NeptonVisua Effects
Rafal FedroVisua Effects
David FialaAdditional Visual Effects
Simon SchossleitnerBuild ngineering
Tiemo HedrichBuild Engineering
Art Department
Mathias WieseArt Director
Jason FlanaganArt Lead
Dominik LuedtkeHead of Asset Creation
Dustin CondieHead of Asset Creation
Alexander RadünzArt Asset Creation
Javier O'NeillArt Asset Creation
Marco GromöllerArt Asset Creation
Tomislav KisArt Asset Creation
Johannes BöhmEnvironment Art
Robert BergmannEnvironment Art
Robert KopfEnvironment Art
Sebastian SchadeEnvironment Art
Viktor JanzenEnvironment Art
Norman SchaarAdditional Environment Art
Pedro Pablo Fernandez MoyaAdditional Environment Art
Sebastian Schulz (I)Lighting Artist
Rafal FedroUser Interface
Michael OberschneiderConcept Art
Christopher SteiningerConcept Art
Dario CoelhoAdditional Concept Art
Aaron FiremAdditional Concept Art
Deamas GallagherAdditional Concept Art
Calvin GolkowskiCharacter Art
Christopher RockelCharacter Art
Animation Department
Marco RoethAnimation Lead
Emmanuel GorinCutscene Director
Patrick BasedowCutscene Editor
Dennis VizinsGameplay Animation
Jens HeinrichGameplay Animation
Roman OchsenfahrtGameplay Animation
Claudius UrbanCinematic Animation
Manfred RagossnigCinematic Animation
Nico OstermannCinematic Animation
Nanette KauligCinematic Animation
Marian WollerCinematic Animation
Fridtjof KühnTechnical Animation
Oleg SolovjovTechnical Animation
Carl Luc CampbellAdditional Animation
Frederick FasseAdditional Animation
Martin PospíšilAdditional Animation
Stefan ZeilnerAdditional Animation
Tomáš SedlákAdditional Animation
Audio Department
Andreas WengelAudio Lead
Alexander MarianAudio Designer
Production
Francois CoulonExecutive Producer
Tarl RaneyProducer
Bairbre BentAssociate Producer
Emmanuel TabarlyAssociate Producer
Lila DukenAssociate Producer
Mark LieboldAssociate Producer
Michael KempsonAssociate Producer
Rudolf Diogo KlumppAssociate Producer
Samuli PöyhtäriAssociate Producer
Ricardo SpligmannAdditional Production
Sven BergmannAdditional Production
Quality Assurance
Thomas SchmidtQuality Assurance Lead
Christophe PaquignonQuality Assurance Lead
Karsten MartinQuality Assurance
Lars WieteQuality Assurance
Matthew BradyQuality Assurance
Michael SchwanQuality Assurance
Oliver HildenbrandtQuality Assurance
Ricardo Ramos De OryQuality Assurance
Robert AnkarbranthQuality Assurance
Stefan BermigQuality Assurance
YAGER Management
Timo UllmannCEO
Philipp SchellbachCTO
Mathias WieseArt Director
Uwe BenekeCreative Director
Roman GolkaIT Director
Eike StolleyHR Manager
Marleen RöslerTeam Assistant
Maurice HillesheimIT System Administrator
Mathias BayerIT Administrator
Julie DavisRecruiter
Claas OehleLegal Advice
Fred FierstLegal Advice
Special Thanks
Aaron ButlerSpecial Thanks
Anh Duc NguyenSpecial Thanks
Anna Helene Beck-ThomsenSpecial Thanks
Daniel NordlanderSpecial Thanks
Gunnar StruchSpecial Thanks
Shawn KawaSpecial Thanks
Mariano SpiegelbergSpecial Thanks
Markus HenschelSpecial Thanks
Florian OeserSpecial Thanks
Benjamin VillhauerSpecial Thanks

Darkside Game Studios

Art
Marcel MarcadoArt Director
Adam GlueckertLead Modeler
Karen SanokLead Texture Artist
Henrique NaspoliniSenior Artist
Udell InfantoSenior Artist
David Phillips3D Artist
Josh Dampman3D Artist
Ken LeSaint3D Artist
Marisa Ainsworth3D Artist
Nelson Izquierdo3D Artist
Sean Couture3D Artist
Steven Buchholz3D Artist
Tyler Bronis3D Artist
Craig SchillerLighting Artist
Devon BrowneLead Animator
Luis BatistaAnimator
Neal SukkertAnimator
Design
Jonathon CooperLead Level Designer
Anthony AlvarezLevel Designer
David Casteel Jr.Level Designer
Elliot EpsteinLevel Designer
Jason FleischmanLevel Designer
Jeff ScottLevel Designer
Michael MacLeodLevel Designer
Executive
Richard Daniels (I)CEO
Production
Nicholas SchreiberCreative Director
Hugh FalkExecutive Producer
Bryan JuryProducer
Jorge VereaAssociate Producer
Programming
Alejandro Garcia-TunonLead Programmer
Alex MillerProgrammer
Darrell ChristmasProgrammer
James ThompsonProgrammer
Jeff HiebertProgrammer
Jeffrey CrenshawProgrammer
Joe CorteseProgrammer
Les BirdProgrammer
Nathan KarpinskiProgrammer
Quality Assurance
Ryan KaneQA Lead
Brandy RumiezQA Tester
Brian GluckmanQA Tester
Daniel BurgosQA Tester
Evan SalasQA Tester
Julian DavisQA Tester
Matt KaplanQA Tester
Additional Art

Shadows in Darkness

Andrew Gilmour3D Artist
Bruno Melo3D Artist
Gabriel Tse3D Artist
Geoff Mellon3D Artist
Jaco Herbst3D Artist
Sean Marino3D Artist
Tadao Masuyama3D Artist
Aaron AndersonConcept Artist
James MosingoConcept Artist
Michael DrakeConcept Artist
Patrick McEvoyConcept Artist
Todd KellerConcept Artist
Cory CollinsAnimator
John LogsdonAnimator
Josh BurtonAnimator
David GasinskiFX Artist
Rebecca WallaceUI Artist
Additional Programming
Boris BatkinOptimization
Pavel NakazenkoOptimization
Audio

DSonic

Kemal AmarasinghamAudio
Simon AmarasinghamAudio
Michael CarterAudio
Brian DuttonAudio
Matteo StronatiAudio
Kian YoaAudio
Brett AptizAudio
Robert CooperAudio
Bryce KanzerAudio
Joanna IwanowiczAudio
Matthew HinesAudio

POP Sound

Garrett MontgomeryFreelance Dialogue Editor
Dan FrancisFreelance Dialogue Editor
Anthony SoriseFreelance Dialogue Editor
Nick BozzoneRe-Recording Mixer
Robert WeissRe-Recording Mixer
Michael MillerRe-Recording Mixer
Tim HoogenakkerRe-Recording Mixer
Brett RothfeldDialogue Editor
Kyle KrajewskiDialogue Editor
Courtney BishopDialogue Editor
Sunny WarkentinDialogue Editor
Kevin McAlpineDialogue Editor
Susie BoyajanProducer
Erin ReillyProducer
Laura HarleyProducer
Jehan ValienteAssistant
Tina EvanowAssistant
Roxy MunozAssistant
Rosario EstrellaAssistant
Motion Capture

Audiomotion Studio

Mick MorrisManaging Director
Brian MitchellOperational Director
Matt RankStudio and Systems Manager
Stacey BoisselleProduction Coordinator and Casting
Tim DoubledayCreative Director
James WittTechnical Director
Diarmaid O'ConnorSenior Motion Capture Technician
Andy GoughSenior Motion Capture Technician
Rachel TudhopeMotion Capture Technician
Sean HinceMotion Capture Technician
Luke NiejadllikJunior Motion Capture Technician
Ashley BeckMocap Actor
Bruce LawrenceMocap Actor
Clive StandenMocap Actor
Giles AldersonMocap Actor
Gorodn AlexanderMocap Actor
Joey AnsahMocap Actor
Nick McKinlessMocap Actor
Oliver HollisMocap Actor
Rachel DonovanMocap Actor
Wil MakaneoleMocap Actor
Lucas OkumaMocap Stunt Actor
Ray CarbonelMocap Stunt Actor
Additional Art

2K China

Julien BaresGeneral Manager
Liu JingProduction Director
Su LuAssociate Producer
Xu Xiao QiangArt Director
Mao Yi MingArt Manager
Shanghai ArtCoding Software., Ltd. (Support Company)
Epic China (Support Company)
Adia Digital Art Co. Ltd (Support Company)
ArtDuck (Support Company)
Nikitova (Support Company)
Yingpei Games (Support Company)
Additinal Programming

Blind Squirrel Games

Brad HendricksCEO / Executive Producer
Ian DaviesTechnical Director / Programmer
Adam LupinacciLead Programmer
Matthew FawcettLead Programmer
Dan GoodmanSr. Progammer
Matt CampbellProgrammer
Daniel SelnickProgrammer
Forest BakerProgrammer

Havok

Joel Van EenwykAdditional Programming
Sean ThurstonAdditional Programming
Vincent HammAdditional Programming
Ross O'DwyerAdditional Programming
Publisher

2K Games

Christoph HartmannPresident
David IsmailerCOO
Greg GobbiSVP, Product Development
John ChowanecDirector of Product Development
Kate KeloggDirector of PD Operations
Jacob HawleyDirector of Technology
Louis EwensOnline Systems Architect
Adam LupinacciOnline Engineer
Lulu LaMerSenior Producer
Denby GraceSenior Producer
Chris Thomas (I)Associate Producer
Andrew DutraProduction Assistant
Dave BlankProduction Assistant
Anton MaslennikovProduction Assistant
Tom DrakeProduction Assistant
Scott JamesProduction Assistant
Brandon JenkinsProduction Assistant
Jordan LimorProduction Assistant
Josh MortonAdditional Production Support
Luke WassermanAdditional Production Support
Greg KasavinAdditional Production Support
Anthony DelucaAdditional Production Support
Sean ScottAdditional Production Support
Jack ScaliciDirector of Creative Production
Chad RoccoSenior Manager of Creative Production
Josh OrellanaManager of Creative Production
Dave BlankProduction Assistant Creative Production
Kaitlin BleierProduction Assistant Creative Production
Walt WilliamsLead Writer
Chad RoccoAdditional Writing
David WashburnMotion Capture Supervisor
Steve ParkMotion Capture Coordinator
Anthony TominiaMotion Capture Lead Artist
Jose GutierrezMotion Capture Specialist
Gil EspantoMotion Capture Specialist
Nick BishopMotion Capture Assistant
Chad RoccoVO Direction
Walt WilliamsVO Direction
Jack ScaliciVO Direction
Sarah AndersonSVP Marketing
Matt GormanVP Marketing
Matthias WehnerVP International Marketing
Tom BassDirector of Marketing
Philip McDanielProduct Manager
Ryan JonesDirector of Public Relations
Erica DenningInternational Associate PR Manager
Jackie TruongDirector, Marketing Production
Lesley ZinnArt Director, Marketing
Gabe AbarcarWeb Director
Elizabeth TobeySenior Manager, Interactive Marketing
Greg LaabsCommunity Manager
David EggersCommunity Manager
Keith EchevarriaWeb Designer
Christopher MaasJr. Graphic Designer
Ham NguyenMarketing Production Assistant
J. Mateo BakerVideo Production Manager
Kenny CrosbieVideo Editor
Michael HowardJr. Video Editor
Doug TylerGame Capture Specialist
Renee WardMarketing Traffic Manager
Kris SeversonVP Business Development
Steve GlicksteinVP Sales & Licensing
Paul CrockettStrategic Sales and Licensing Director
Peter WelchVP, Legal
Dorian RehfieldDirector of Operations
Xenia MulLicensing / Operations Specialist
Shelby CoxDirector of Licensing, Strategic Partnerships & In-game Media
Dawn BurnellMarketing Manager, Partner Relations
2K Quality Assurance
Alex PlachowskiVP of Quality Assurance
Grant BrysonQuality Assurance Test Manager (Projects)
Alexis LaddQuality Assurance Test Manager (Support Team)
Doug RothmanQuality Assurance Test Manager (Support Team)
Andrew WebsterLead Tester
Will StanleyLead Tester (Support Team)
Scott SanfordLead Tester (Support Team)
Nathan BellLead Tester (Support Team)
Darren Miller-PfeuferSenior Tester
Justin WallerSenior Tester
Marc PerretSenior Tester
Ruben GonzalezSenior Tester
Josh LagersonSenior Tester
Stephen FloridaSenior Tester
Chad CheshireQuality Assurance Team
Daniel Brown (I)Quality Assurance Team
David BenedictQuality Assurance Team
Krystle WallisQuality Assurance Team
Dasha JantzenQuality Assurance Team
Alexander LanghamQuality Assurance Team
Steven Taylor (I)Quality Assurance Team
Robert HornbeckQuality Assurance Team
Christopher DuplessisQuality Assurance Team
Vien Vien Vivien PhamQuality Assurance Team
Michael YarsulikQuality Assurance Team
Shaynna MarshallQuality Assurance Team
Patrick ThomasQuality Assurance Team
Jonathan StoverQuality Assurance Team
Djordje RosicQuality Assurance Team
Imad HaddadQuality Assurance Team
Sergio SanchezQuality Assurance Team
Stephanie AndersonQuality Assurance Team
Jason BerlinQuality Assurance Team
Cris MaureraQuality Assurance Team
Craig BaroodyQuality Assurance Team
Jordan EspinosaQuality Assurance Team
Peter LongQuality Assurance Team
Keane TanouyeQuality Assurance Team
Troy MaldonadoQuality Assurance Team
Kevin NorwoodQuality Assurance Team
Jacob AguilarQuality Assurance Team
James KagelQuality Assurance Team
Andrew HaymesQuality Assurance Team
Luis NievesQuality Assurance Team
Luke WilliamsQuality Assurance Team
Andrew GarrettQuality Assurance Team
Bill LankerQuality Assurance Team
Josh GloverQuality Assurance Team
Mark VazquezQuality Assurance Team
Brian HibbardQuality Assurance Team
Jeremy ThompsonQuality Assurance Team
Chris AdamsQuality Assurance Team
Manny JuarezQuality Assurance Team
Paul CarrionQuality Assurance Team
Matthew FoleyQuality Assurance Team
Kevin SkorczQuality Assurance Team
Noah Ryan-StoutQuality Assurance Team
Antonio Monteverde-TalaricoQuality Assurance Team
John HernandezQuality Assurance Team
Chris HendersonQuality Assurance Team
Alex CoffinQuality Assurance Team
Gabe WoodsQuality Assurance Team
Davis KrieghoffQuality Assurance Team
Keith DoranQuality Assurance Team
Andrew VietriQuality Assurance Team
Micah GrassmanQuality Assurance Team
David HambardzumyanQuality Assurance Team
Lynda MillerQuality Assurance Team
Obed NavasQuality Assurance Team
Alex VahleQuality Assurance Team
Matt PorterQuality Assurance Team
Alexander WeldonQuality Assurance Team
Christopher MorganQuality Assurance Team
Laura PortnerQuality Assurance Team
Justin BonaccorsoQuality Assurance Team
Tom ParkQuality Assurance Team
Ronald TolieQuality Assurance Team
Dylan SantizoQuality Assurance Team
Jonathan CastroQuality Assurance Team
Patrick McDonnellQuality Assurance Team
Eric KiralyQuality Assurance Team
Daniel KurtzQuality Assurance Team
Travis Van EssenQuality Assurance Team
Angela BerryQuality Assurance Team
Bobby JonesQuality Assurance Team
Justin StantonQuality Assurance Team
Brian CarlQuality Assurance Team
Irma WardQuality Assurance Team
Michael SpeilerQuality Assurance Team
2K International
Neil RalleyGeneral Manager
Sian EvansInternational Marketing Manager
Markus WildingSenior Director, International PR
Sam WoodwardAssistant International PR Manager
Claire RobertsLicensing Director
Martin MooreInternational Digital Marketing Manager
2K International Product Development
Jean-Sébastien FereyInternational Producer
Nathalie MathewsLocalization Manager
Arsenio FormosoAssistant Localization Manager
Around The WordExternal Localization (Support Company)
Synthesis InternationalExternal Localization (Support Company)
Synthesis IberiaExternal Localization (Support Company)
Coda Entertainment GmbHExternal Localization (Support Company)
PTWExternal Localization (Support Company)
Xloc. incLocalization Tools and Support (Support Company)
2K International Quality Assurance
Jose MinanaQA Localisation Supervisor
Wayne BoyceMastering Engineer
Alan VincentMastering Technician
Luigi Di DomenicoLocalisation QA Project Lead
Karim CherifLocalisation QA Lead
Oscar PereiraLocalisation QA Lead
Elmar SchubertLocalisation QA Senior Technician
Fabrizio MarianiLocalisation QA Senior Technician
Florian GenthonLocalisation QA Senior Technician
Jose OlivaresLocalisation QA Senior Technician
Stefan RossiLocalisation QA Senior Technician
Enrico SetteLocalisation QA Technician
Andrea De Luna RomeroLocalisation QA Technician
Cristina La MuraLocalisation QA Technician
Christopher FunkeLocalisation QA Technician
Pablo MenéndezLocalisation QA Technician
Chau DoanLocalisation QA Technician
Sergio AccetturaLocalisation QA Technician
Carine FreundLocalisation QA Technician
Javier VidalLocalisation QA Technician
Harald RaschenLocalisation QA Technician
Dimitri GerardLocalisation QA Technician
James CrockerDesign Team
Tom BakerDesign Team
Agnes Rosique2K International Team
Ben Lawrence2K International Team
Ben Seccombe2K International Team
Dan Cooke2K International Team
David Halse2K International Team
Diana Freitag2K International Team
Dominique Connolly2K International Team
Jan Sturm2K International Team
Jean-Paul Hardy2K International Team
Lieke Mandemakers2K International Team
Luis De La Camara Burditt2K International Team
Matt Roche2K International Team
Olivier Troit2K International Team
Richie Churchill2K International Team
Ross Purdy2K International Team
Sandra Melero2K International Team
Simon Turner2K International Team
Solenne Antien2K International Team
Stefan Eder2K International Team
Anthony DoddTake-Two International Operations
Martin AlwayTake-Two International Operations
Philip AndertonTake-Two International Operations
Nisha VermaTake-Two International Operations
Robert WillisTake-Two International Operations
Denisa PolcerovaTake-Two International Operations
Rick FoxFox Sound Studios
Michael WeberFox Sound Studios
Tim SchmidtFox Sound Studios
Cal HalterFox Sound Studios
Keith FoxFox Sound Studios
Dustin SmithFox Sound Studios
Joe SchmidtFox Sound Studios

2K Asia

Karen TeoAsia Marketing Director
Takahiro MoritaJapan Marketing Manager
Yosuke YanoLocalization Manager
Eileen ChongTake Two Asia Operations
Veron KhuanTake Two Asia Operations
Chermine TanTake Two Asia Operations
Fumiko OkuraTake Two Asia Operations
Julian CorbettTake Two Asia Business Development
Satoshi KashiwazakiTake Two Asia Business Development
2K China Localization QA Team
Zhang Xi KunQA Manager
Steve MannersQA Supervisor
Shen WeiLead Tester
Zhang HaoTester
Chu Jin DanTester
Zhao Xiao XuTester

2K Games

Jordan KatzSpecial Thanks
David CoxSpecial Thanks
Siobhan BoesSpecial Thanks
Hank DiamondSpecial Thanks
Alan LewisSpecial Thanks
Daniel EinzigSpecial Thanks
Christopher FiumanoSpecial Thanks
Pedram RahbariSpecial Thanks
Jenn KolbeSpecial Thanks
Seth KraussSpecial Thanks
Greg GibsonSpecial Thanks
Jonathan WashburnSpecial Thanks
David BoutrySpecial Thanks
Ryan DixonSpecial Thanks
Michael LightnerSpecial Thanks
Gail HamrickSpecial Thanks
Sharon HunterSpecial Thanks
Kate RyanSpecial Thanks
Michele ShadidSpecial Thanks
Trailer ParkSpecial Thanks (Support Company)
Access PRSpecial Thanks (Support Company)
KD&ESpecial Thanks (Support Company)
Big SolutionsSpecial Thanks (Support Company)
Gwendoline OlivieroSpecial Thanks
Benjamin X. ChangSpecial Thanks
Chris SolisSpecial Thanks
Jennie SueSpecial Thanks
Iain WillowsSpecial Thanks
Mark WardSpecial Thanks
Sasha de GuzmanSpecial Thanks
Merja ReedSpecial Thanks
Rick ShawalkerSpecial Thanks
Daisy AmescuaSpecial Thanks
Lori DurrantSpecial Thanks
Chris JonesSpecial Thanks
Pedro VillaSpecial Thanks
Eric LaneSpecial Thanks
Todd IngramSpecial Thanks
Casey ColemanSpecial Thanks
Kristian GuyteSpecial Thanks
Nicholas ChavezSpecial Thanks
Scott TronoSpecial Thanks
Jeremy PryerSpecial Thanks
Nick PylvanainenSpecial Thanks
Lincoln WestSpecial Thanks
Morgan SearsSpecial Thanks
Kellen YurickSpecial Thanks
Ryan HellerSpecial Thanks
Artapong IntapatanaSpecial Thanks
Brent KiddooSpecial Thanks
Matt PriceSpecial Thanks
Sam VicchrilliSpecial Thanks
Joe PerlasSpecial Thanks
Donald OhlsonSpecial Thanks
Steve CapriSpecial Thanks
Matt PriddySpecial Thanks
Orry KlainmanSpecial Thanks
James AdkinsSpecial Thanks
Clint BaptisteSpecial Thanks
Darryl AustinSpecial Thanks
Clay CashelSpecial Thanks
Casey KealohaSpecial Thanks
Anthony FlorezSpecial Thanks
Kevin StrahmaierSpecial Thanks
Evan JacksonSpecial Thanks
Erin O'MalleySpecial Thanks
Rob NewmanSpecial Thanks
Adamah TaylorSpecial Thanks
Ivan PreciadoSpecial Thanks
Derek BridgesSpecial Thanks
Charles LedesmaSpecial Thanks
Ophir KlainmanSpecial Thanks
Steven BogolubSpecial Thanks
Colin CampbellSpecial Thanks
Anna KholyavenkoSpecial Thanks
Frank MeadowsSpecial Thanks
Maurice WilsonSpecial Thanks

Spec Ops: The Line

84 /100


Released: 2012

Spec Ops: The Line's emotional narrative unfolds within the destroyed opulence of Dubai. Once a playground for the world's wealthiest elite, now Dubai has been reclaimed by Mother Nature, buried underneath the most...